5176.12 - An oral history with Harry Goulding, 1974 August 23
Scope and Contents
The contents of the Samuel Moon Monument Valley Oral History Collection consist of oral histories, transcripts, and records documenting the history of Monument Valley and Four Corners area. The oral histories are from those who lived in this area between the 1900s-1970s and pertain to Goulding’s trading post (one of the most well-known trading posts of the 20th century)and its owner/operator Harry Goulding, the Navajo tribe, sheep ranching, local tourism, uranium mining, and the western movies made in the valley.
Dates
- 1974 August 23
Extent
3 Cassettes
1 Files (Verbatim (106 pages) and edited (63 pages) transcripts)
6 digital objects (Abstract and digitized copy of cassette recordings)
Language of Materials
English
Abstract
In the interview, Harry talks about day-to day life at the trading post. He discusses his work in stock, specifically sheep herding, breeding, and trading with both the Navajo and people outside the valley; says that his wife, Mike Goulding (OH5175), conducted business at the trading post while Harry and his employees were working with the sheep; and explains that he only stayed I the stock business until the tourist trade, which he actively promoted, picked up enough to be profitable.
He recounts a story about buying a car in Los Angeles, the misunderstanding that led the company to come after him for non-payment and how he solved it, and how this affected his opinion of credit.
Harry then goes on to describe the trading business in Monument Valley and the difference in trading with the Navajo or with tourists; he goes into detail on the beauty and uniqueness of Navajo rugs and their popularity outside of the valley; discusses the Navajo and their feelings about alcohol; recalls the process of getting supplies to the trading post; talks about the difficult roads in the valley, especially in the early days, and his efforts to get them improved.
He tells the story of his and Mike’s trip when they moved into the valley and how the local Navajo were a little suspicious of him at first.
He describes the process of trading with the Navajo, explaining that it was never just straight business. He discusses pawning as part of the trading process and needing to how much credit you could give someone. He explains that several Navajo abused their credit so he had to stop giving it except to a very select few. He speaks more about what a typical Navajo trading visit was like; sometimes whole families would come and Harry tried to have treats for the kids to keep them happy; and talks about goods that traders, including Harry, brought in that the Navajo adopted such as stoves.
Repository Details
Part of the Lawrence De Graaf Center for Oral and Public History Repository